There are no solutions only trade offs. Every industrial processes comes with side effects & unintended consequences. Shuffling the deck of the periodic table does not alleviate the the trade offs, it either delays, increases, or maintains the situation. Germany fucked around & found out quickly without natural gas many-if not all-of it's industrial capacity and that were "green" only contributed to poor air quality & emissions increases not only directly through there own increases, but globaly because of the increase in countries to supply their "green" demand. No such thing as a free lunch
When the baby boomers, like me (1966), disappear from working life, the whole thing will start to slide. They are all people who are still working overtime in Germany with education, expertise and courage. There will be a bang all over Europe, and it will be a loud one😎
Great article...probably ahead of its time, and most likely to be ignored by the paparazzi ...but great article anyway.
It would seem the greenies now have their own "waste" problem. I just loved the qualifier on the PFAS fact sheet - "fluoropolymers do not pose a significant risk to human health or the
environment when used for their intended purposes." So long as the paint stays on the blade, it's OK. But what happens when we put it in the ground, above the water table, and let it sit there for million years? That is the very standard applied to spent fuel, and the very reason Yucca was denied.
Our local utility wants to put a solar farm on the site of a shuttered NPP. The site is immediately adjacent to and in the flood plain of a river that provides fresh water literally to millions of people. When I asked them for their studies on the contamination potential, I was told they didn't know because it was the developer's problem. Sweet Jesus!
Does anyone else appreciate the irony of this situation? Greenies claim nuclear's biggest drawback is what to do with its waste, then totally ignore the much larger waste stream (due to energy density) that will come from their stupid, worthless windmills and glass plates. Bryce is correct - unicorn farts and fairy dust.
Fluorinated gases are wonderful, we need to manufacture them on Mars by the tens of thousands of tons. SF6 has a GHG potential 30,000X that of CO2. Easily tip Mars into a runaway Global Warming state causing the temperature to rise sufficiently to cause oceans, lakes and rivers to be widespread on the Martian surface, bring the atmospheric pressure up to about 1/2 that of the Earth's so colonists will no longer need pressure suits, just breathing apparatus. With all that CO2 plant food in the atmosphere, bacteria and plant life can flourish on Mars, setting the stage for a breathable atmosphere.
A dead World, brought to life. The greatest achievement in the history of human civilization. In fact the greatest event in the history of Earth Life since the Cambrian Explosion. You got to love those fluorocarbons. And CO2 - progenitors of life.
1. Gee, I wonder if there is a similar issue with respect to medical technologies and products? 2. Is anyone else skeptical about regulating compounds at the level of parts per trillion?
If the environmental left ever came up with two consistent logical thoughts in a row its likely they would die from the effort.
Here in Canada the federal government of radical extreme environmental left just got slapped down by the courts for trying to over reach and ban plastics as "toxic".
This is the same federal govt that just threw $400million into the pot to help the DOW net zero project in Ft Sask, AB to proceed, a project that will produce plastic.
As always, i wish i could make this up or say that i got this from the Babylon Bee but no, its a function of morons.
The are clearly in “control” of the “green” transition. I’m confident that Habeck will do everything he can. For example write another child book, because they are probably the only group who would still believe him.
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Loved the post. This will continue happening more and more and I am planning on bringing the popcorn and reveling in the greens repeatedly shooting each other. It will be fun to watch.
" Contributing to the problem in order to “fix” it is just an unfortunate consequence." I've been screaming about this for a while now and no one seems to want to acknowledge the flaws in their own arguments whether it be blanketing the fields in solar panels, covering earth and sea with wind turbines thus putting not just an eyesore but an ecological disruptor to multiple animal populations and human processes (like sleep for those living nearby to name 1), or the inane and hypocritical dirge to battery-fy everything despite the steep ecological cost (which is generally out of site out of mind for the screamers) and their fight to not put a lithium mine in their own backyard.
The call to arms to destroy nature in order to save nature and not have those calling see what they're actually asking for is equally humorous and infuriating
Good article. It should be noted that some of the these fluorocarbon materials are relatively inert solids. Teflon polymers and their derivatives are one example. The bad actors are the small molecules which can and do spread in the water table and leach out of products.
Great article! Thank you so much for highlighting the absurd situation in Germany, and the strange ideas of EU bureaucrazy :-) to steer a complex industrial landscape.
Loved the phrase "this is another example of the “ready, shoot, aim” level of critical thinking commonly on display in many aspects of the “alternative energy transition” and a consequence of “leaders” failing to comprehend the most basic aspects of the world around them."
There are no solutions only trade offs. Every industrial processes comes with side effects & unintended consequences. Shuffling the deck of the periodic table does not alleviate the the trade offs, it either delays, increases, or maintains the situation. Germany fucked around & found out quickly without natural gas many-if not all-of it's industrial capacity and that were "green" only contributed to poor air quality & emissions increases not only directly through there own increases, but globaly because of the increase in countries to supply their "green" demand. No such thing as a free lunch
My advice ... never give a machine that measures part per trillion to someone that has not personal counted to a trillion out loud.
When the baby boomers, like me (1966), disappear from working life, the whole thing will start to slide. They are all people who are still working overtime in Germany with education, expertise and courage. There will be a bang all over Europe, and it will be a loud one😎
Excellent article showing again how those darned unintended consequences keep popping up their heads
Great article...probably ahead of its time, and most likely to be ignored by the paparazzi ...but great article anyway.
It would seem the greenies now have their own "waste" problem. I just loved the qualifier on the PFAS fact sheet - "fluoropolymers do not pose a significant risk to human health or the
environment when used for their intended purposes." So long as the paint stays on the blade, it's OK. But what happens when we put it in the ground, above the water table, and let it sit there for million years? That is the very standard applied to spent fuel, and the very reason Yucca was denied.
Our local utility wants to put a solar farm on the site of a shuttered NPP. The site is immediately adjacent to and in the flood plain of a river that provides fresh water literally to millions of people. When I asked them for their studies on the contamination potential, I was told they didn't know because it was the developer's problem. Sweet Jesus!
Does anyone else appreciate the irony of this situation? Greenies claim nuclear's biggest drawback is what to do with its waste, then totally ignore the much larger waste stream (due to energy density) that will come from their stupid, worthless windmills and glass plates. Bryce is correct - unicorn farts and fairy dust.
Great piece! I had no idea. Put this together with bird and bat slaughter and whale deaths and we might have a problem.
How is it possible that before we had fossil fuel and all these horrible substances, the life expectancy was 39?
Fluorinated gases are wonderful, we need to manufacture them on Mars by the tens of thousands of tons. SF6 has a GHG potential 30,000X that of CO2. Easily tip Mars into a runaway Global Warming state causing the temperature to rise sufficiently to cause oceans, lakes and rivers to be widespread on the Martian surface, bring the atmospheric pressure up to about 1/2 that of the Earth's so colonists will no longer need pressure suits, just breathing apparatus. With all that CO2 plant food in the atmosphere, bacteria and plant life can flourish on Mars, setting the stage for a breathable atmosphere.
A dead World, brought to life. The greatest achievement in the history of human civilization. In fact the greatest event in the history of Earth Life since the Cambrian Explosion. You got to love those fluorocarbons. And CO2 - progenitors of life.
1. Gee, I wonder if there is a similar issue with respect to medical technologies and products? 2. Is anyone else skeptical about regulating compounds at the level of parts per trillion?
If the environmental left ever came up with two consistent logical thoughts in a row its likely they would die from the effort.
Here in Canada the federal government of radical extreme environmental left just got slapped down by the courts for trying to over reach and ban plastics as "toxic".
This is the same federal govt that just threw $400million into the pot to help the DOW net zero project in Ft Sask, AB to proceed, a project that will produce plastic.
As always, i wish i could make this up or say that i got this from the Babylon Bee but no, its a function of morons.
The are clearly in “control” of the “green” transition. I’m confident that Habeck will do everything he can. For example write another child book, because they are probably the only group who would still believe him.
Loved the post. This will continue happening more and more and I am planning on bringing the popcorn and reveling in the greens repeatedly shooting each other. It will be fun to watch.
" Contributing to the problem in order to “fix” it is just an unfortunate consequence." I've been screaming about this for a while now and no one seems to want to acknowledge the flaws in their own arguments whether it be blanketing the fields in solar panels, covering earth and sea with wind turbines thus putting not just an eyesore but an ecological disruptor to multiple animal populations and human processes (like sleep for those living nearby to name 1), or the inane and hypocritical dirge to battery-fy everything despite the steep ecological cost (which is generally out of site out of mind for the screamers) and their fight to not put a lithium mine in their own backyard.
The call to arms to destroy nature in order to save nature and not have those calling see what they're actually asking for is equally humorous and infuriating
Great article to read before getting the day started. If you think the government identified problem is bad, wait until you hear their solution.
Good article. It should be noted that some of the these fluorocarbon materials are relatively inert solids. Teflon polymers and their derivatives are one example. The bad actors are the small molecules which can and do spread in the water table and leach out of products.
Great article! Thank you so much for highlighting the absurd situation in Germany, and the strange ideas of EU bureaucrazy :-) to steer a complex industrial landscape.
Loved the phrase "this is another example of the “ready, shoot, aim” level of critical thinking commonly on display in many aspects of the “alternative energy transition” and a consequence of “leaders” failing to comprehend the most basic aspects of the world around them."