If 30 million acres of corn for gas is good, using diesel to cut, bale, transport and dump the leftovers in the ocean has to be environmentally better.
This madness of "carbon offsets" is no different in kind than kings and priests across the world and centuries sacrificing children, goats, gold, anything of value in hopes of propitiating vengeful gods and fates. The madness in addition of removing a valuable source of nutrients and soil building in a world of people needing food is, like, extra-stupid. OF COURSE ethanol is one of the Original Green Boondoggles and should be abolished immediately. Carbon sinking former corn farmland is just the tip of the Benefits Iceberg.
......"If 30 million acres of corn for gas is good, using diesel to cut, bale, transport and dump the leftovers in the ocean ...."
This might sound silly but as there's no mention of compacting the stuff, and knowing bales of straw have multiple air pockets, the thought occurred that these things would float rather than sink, unless they weighted them down with rocks, - as in the mafia with dead bodies. I probably don't understand the technical side of this plan...
I've often suggested to people who feel we should 'get rid of co2" that they should.aet an example.with an easy experiment. Just take a plastic bag, put it over their head and tie it off. That will restrict all co2... if it works out well, they can get back to me and I might join them. 😉
I often wonder if any of these co2 zealots understand that many commercial greenhouses actually buy machines to produce MORE co2. Our current levels of 400ppm +/- are barely enough for them. They need levels of 1200-1500 ppm for optimum growth. As said above we will probably never reach dangerously high levels BUT we CAN reach dangerously low levels at around 350ppm from what I've read.
OMG! Just when you think you've heard the absolute dumbest example of "planet saving", along comes another more egregious example. My hypothesis about how these fur brain ideas get hatched includes these kids being raised on psychoactive drugs, rather than Gilbert Chemistry Sets.
Throwing agricultural waste into deep oceans is a ridiculous idea. My new startup MuskNHusks proposes instead to use SpaceX Starships to put it into permanent earth orbit.
This has a cost of $20,000 per ton, but I’m sure some woke corporations will pay this to meet their ESG goals.
I am very pleased you included the referenced paper by Strand and Benford in this post. I would have had a hard time believing anyone could be so stupid. Just proves you can't make this stuff up!
I hope someone sends this article to Carboniferous so they can see that WE see what constitutes a loser company. 100% agree the 30 million acres should be returned to prairie. The world NEEDS C02 so all this green grifting is a ridiculous waste of taxpayer money wasted on ‘subsidies’ for everything stupid from this example to solar panels, wind turbines, EV’s and more.
After 50 years in the power business I was convinced I had seen every whack job “game changer” goofy idea possible. Carbon Sequestration opens a whole new level of nuttiness, supported and encouraged by cash raining out of Washington.
While I can find some humor in your article, I very much doubt it will do any more than scratch an itch on the green monster's back.
Today we're all actors in a play, a play being performed in the "theatre of the absurd." In a perverse way I have to, 'doff my cap' to the script writers at "Carboniferous." The green monster thrives on absurdity and it would not surprise me to see millions of deluded investors part with their money in order to cash in on a windfall.
The recycling craze shows how easily we are to program into insanity. As the journalist, the late Margaret Wente said, "We're happily sifting coffee grounds to look for dental floss." The populous is generally happy to send their kids to the green propaganda factories to have young minds filled with drivel. Sadly, I even see a shade of green pollution in your writing with the sentence, "Wide-scale adoption of nuclear power is the best route to the deepest cuts in CO2 emissions from the electricity sector in advanced nations."
While the audience applauded when the actors in an earlier scene of this play mouthed the words, "carbon is evil" the thundering cacophony drowned out the protesting voices saying "carbon is the source of life." Our affluence is due to some 600 products derived from refined hydrocarbons ... and many of us Expend a great deal of effort trying to eliminate the multiplier of human effort.
Consider well the fact that human intelligence, applied to molecule found in nature, build the machines that let us do the impossible. Machines let us lift gigantic loads, carry them over thousands of miles while traveling a eye-watering speeds. Yet this is what a multitude of people fight to destroy.
The theater of the absurd has been running the same play for years. It's time we stopped feeding the green monster.
Good one! Thanks, Environmental. Few know and fewer care that the anaerobic zone of the oceans is not a dead zone. What amazes me more than the grift and money is how ideology perverts science and this one - environmentalism - more than most.
I donno why you blame environmentalists for ethanol--that's an agriculture subsidy thing, congressional midwest pork. I've never heard an environmentalist be like "oh we won ethanol we're so great."
Oh. My. Goodness! Shows that people will go to great lengths for virtue-signaling. They'll do it even for stuff this hilariously ridiculous! The fertilizer issue is what should stop some of them - fertilizer is very, VERY expensive nowadays!! Because someone who lives in a big, white house in Washington DC has put sanctions on Russia (the supplier of most of the fertilizer used worldwide), it is even harder and more expensive to get fertilizer. WEFfers are delusional. Which makes them even more dangerous! Thanks for this article! I'm really glad to have the info!!
Excellent! Getting this information to the general public may help them to wake up to the extremists that are setting policies in Washington. Thank you
Save the Bales
This madness of "carbon offsets" is no different in kind than kings and priests across the world and centuries sacrificing children, goats, gold, anything of value in hopes of propitiating vengeful gods and fates. The madness in addition of removing a valuable source of nutrients and soil building in a world of people needing food is, like, extra-stupid. OF COURSE ethanol is one of the Original Green Boondoggles and should be abolished immediately. Carbon sinking former corn farmland is just the tip of the Benefits Iceberg.
......"If 30 million acres of corn for gas is good, using diesel to cut, bale, transport and dump the leftovers in the ocean ...."
This might sound silly but as there's no mention of compacting the stuff, and knowing bales of straw have multiple air pockets, the thought occurred that these things would float rather than sink, unless they weighted them down with rocks, - as in the mafia with dead bodies. I probably don't understand the technical side of this plan...
I've often suggested to people who feel we should 'get rid of co2" that they should.aet an example.with an easy experiment. Just take a plastic bag, put it over their head and tie it off. That will restrict all co2... if it works out well, they can get back to me and I might join them. 😉
I often wonder if any of these co2 zealots understand that many commercial greenhouses actually buy machines to produce MORE co2. Our current levels of 400ppm +/- are barely enough for them. They need levels of 1200-1500 ppm for optimum growth. As said above we will probably never reach dangerously high levels BUT we CAN reach dangerously low levels at around 350ppm from what I've read.
OMG! Just when you think you've heard the absolute dumbest example of "planet saving", along comes another more egregious example. My hypothesis about how these fur brain ideas get hatched includes these kids being raised on psychoactive drugs, rather than Gilbert Chemistry Sets.
https://www.acghs.org/?page_id=4310
Throwing agricultural waste into deep oceans is a ridiculous idea. My new startup MuskNHusks proposes instead to use SpaceX Starships to put it into permanent earth orbit.
This has a cost of $20,000 per ton, but I’m sure some woke corporations will pay this to meet their ESG goals.
I am very pleased you included the referenced paper by Strand and Benford in this post. I would have had a hard time believing anyone could be so stupid. Just proves you can't make this stuff up!
Thank you very much for a delightful post.
I hope someone sends this article to Carboniferous so they can see that WE see what constitutes a loser company. 100% agree the 30 million acres should be returned to prairie. The world NEEDS C02 so all this green grifting is a ridiculous waste of taxpayer money wasted on ‘subsidies’ for everything stupid from this example to solar panels, wind turbines, EV’s and more.
After 50 years in the power business I was convinced I had seen every whack job “game changer” goofy idea possible. Carbon Sequestration opens a whole new level of nuttiness, supported and encouraged by cash raining out of Washington.
I learned a new term "green grift" I think I will start using it. Thanks.
Secondly.... are we for sure that rising CO2 levels are actually a bad thing????
While I can find some humor in your article, I very much doubt it will do any more than scratch an itch on the green monster's back.
Today we're all actors in a play, a play being performed in the "theatre of the absurd." In a perverse way I have to, 'doff my cap' to the script writers at "Carboniferous." The green monster thrives on absurdity and it would not surprise me to see millions of deluded investors part with their money in order to cash in on a windfall.
The recycling craze shows how easily we are to program into insanity. As the journalist, the late Margaret Wente said, "We're happily sifting coffee grounds to look for dental floss." The populous is generally happy to send their kids to the green propaganda factories to have young minds filled with drivel. Sadly, I even see a shade of green pollution in your writing with the sentence, "Wide-scale adoption of nuclear power is the best route to the deepest cuts in CO2 emissions from the electricity sector in advanced nations."
While the audience applauded when the actors in an earlier scene of this play mouthed the words, "carbon is evil" the thundering cacophony drowned out the protesting voices saying "carbon is the source of life." Our affluence is due to some 600 products derived from refined hydrocarbons ... and many of us Expend a great deal of effort trying to eliminate the multiplier of human effort.
Consider well the fact that human intelligence, applied to molecule found in nature, build the machines that let us do the impossible. Machines let us lift gigantic loads, carry them over thousands of miles while traveling a eye-watering speeds. Yet this is what a multitude of people fight to destroy.
The theater of the absurd has been running the same play for years. It's time we stopped feeding the green monster.
Good one! Thanks, Environmental. Few know and fewer care that the anaerobic zone of the oceans is not a dead zone. What amazes me more than the grift and money is how ideology perverts science and this one - environmentalism - more than most.
I donno why you blame environmentalists for ethanol--that's an agriculture subsidy thing, congressional midwest pork. I've never heard an environmentalist be like "oh we won ethanol we're so great."
My garden loves straw, and bales of rotting vegetation. Whose doesn't? Oh right... vertical farms owned by Amazon.
Why is it not a surprise that Microsoft, Stripe, etc are finding this latest sickening boondoggle?
Oh. My. Goodness! Shows that people will go to great lengths for virtue-signaling. They'll do it even for stuff this hilariously ridiculous! The fertilizer issue is what should stop some of them - fertilizer is very, VERY expensive nowadays!! Because someone who lives in a big, white house in Washington DC has put sanctions on Russia (the supplier of most of the fertilizer used worldwide), it is even harder and more expensive to get fertilizer. WEFfers are delusional. Which makes them even more dangerous! Thanks for this article! I'm really glad to have the info!!
Excellent! Getting this information to the general public may help them to wake up to the extremists that are setting policies in Washington. Thank you