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carbonates's avatar

They lost me here:

"The lithium batteries come from toxic mines in Chile and devour other rare metals, causing misery and destruction for the people in the mining areas. " I doubt they have even been to a mine in their lifetimes. I am always disgusted by people who live protected urban and suburban lives with zero experience outside of their built environment claiming that everyone who lives outside of a city is somehow "miserable and exploited" and worse yet, protesting in order to "protect" these people they have never met that they imagine are being harmed. It is meaningless and naive virtue-signaling, that I am convinced is some sort of mental disorder. But I wonder, is there actually money backing these protests coming from some even more sinister actor?

I've had boots on the ground in these "toxic" mines in Chile. They consist of a few buildings with lots of evaporation ponds. There is probably not any method of mining that is more benign than brine production of lithium. And the area is largely unpopulated except for the people who work for the mining companies. The Atacama desert is the driest place on the planet, getting less than 15 mm of rainfall in a year on average. If any people are miserable it is probably because of the climate of the Atacama, not the mining. Brine mining using evaporation is truly "solar power" as it depends on the sun and evaporation to concentrate the lithium brine. The same process happens naturally in the desert and some of the salt flats host flamingos that feed on the brine shrimp and algae that grows where there is this brackish water (funny how they survive this "toxic" condition). But you can't even get to these places without a 4x4. The Atacama is a beautiful place, and in none of my time there did I see anyone who who looked miserable with the exception of some hard working hard-rock copper miners that operated very small underground mines for copper ore. Even they seemed to love the challenges they faced and certainly did not feel "exploited." One of these miners shared some samples of Atacamite, a rare copper mineral found only in the Atacama with me and it is among my most prized rock samples. There is no one there protesting the lithium mines or even the copper mines which are the largest in the world.

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Dean's avatar

About half-way through I began to envision some person in a beret and Che Guevara tee shirt, smoking roll-your-own cigarettes, surrounded by discordant poetry books, and opposed to automobiles because secretly they don't know how to change a flat.

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