No worries. At each place in the article where we first mention each episode (there are 5), you'll find that Episode 1 (for example) has an active link to YouTube, where you may view each episode for free.
Or, just search Juice the Movie on YouTube and it will pull up. 5 episodes, each lasting around 20 minutes.
Enjoy! Please help Robert and Tyson (and Meredith and Emmet and others) spread the message widely!
We’ve followed his work since we read Power Hungry almost 15 yrs ago.
Authors who can make the critical services largely taken for granted by the public relatable for the layperson are important. Doomberg and Bryce are our favorites in this regard.
Alex Epstein does a nice job on the philosophical, moral, human side of this energy/environmental/economic conversation. Roger Pielke, Jr. does so nicely with climate science, as does Judith Curry (whom I’ve known since 2009) for those more technically interested. Bjorn Lomborg has done so very well since writing The Skeptical Environmentalist almost 25 years ago.
There are other great voices. Too many to list. We hope to contribute in some small way to the overall effort to find the right balance between human prosperity and environmental stewardship.
Back in 2022 Bryce was interviewing a Arab American oil expert Anas Alhajji, mention the deep state. Bryce told him that we don't say that here that deep state is conspiracy theory. I don't see his optimism as far as the Constitution goes which is wrecked 400 million dollars that Trump has to pay for nothing this country is a banana Republic run by the deep state the CIA the FBI are going to elect our presidents and if you get out of line you'll get the Trump treatment.
I very much admire both your post and the work of Robert Bryce. I have just one caveat with the movie ... it doesn't make the point strongly that energy security is missing as a goal in the top tier of regulators. Until all the foolish people that consider carbon dioxide to be villainous are removed from control, there will continue be frozen ordinary citizen
Does anyone else find it ironic that they may need to install rooftop solar with battery backup to avoid the inevitable electrical disruptions caused by the premature widespread adoption of renewables?
Fantastic summation of each episode, thank you. I want my young adult kids to watch it because they are the generation entering primacy as adults. They come up against a slavering mass of truly ignorant but "educated" peers and it's important that they understand how policy can be so quixotically written and enacted and the political reasons for that.
I always find that John Lee Pettimore's pithy notes about the contrast between renewables and the emerging battery economy and their decidedly un-green sourcing and mfr process a great illustration of how fear and misrepresention of reality bring about terrible policy decisions.
You're welcome. Good idea. Young adults are also shocked to read Bjorn Lomborg's The Skeptical Environmentalist and what it documents as well. Written ~2000 but still applicable (his present work at Copenhagen Consensus continues that type of analysis.).
The other documentary we recommend to that generation is Jeff Gibbs' Planet of the Humans. When you set aside Gibbs (and exec dir. Michael Moore's) Malthusianism and statism, what you're left with in that documentary about wind and solar is nothing short of stunning. (Substack author and 350.org Founder Bill McKibben does not come off looking particularly good or very serious about "environmentalism" in that film...)
I recall how rapidly the left side of the aisle went from talking about the Moore and Gibbs doc to a complete silence following its release. And you're statement about the filmmakers' takeaway not just repudiating the giant green conglomerates but finding ever more reason to want to euthanize the planet's human population. The left really does seem to have an apocalyptic vision of reality which is strange to me.
Anyway, thanks for the Lomberg tip, I never read the book. He's cogent and an excellent analyst. I was also curious about Fritz Vahrenholt's work too since I find his position to be rational, but confess I haven't read Das Kalte Sonne yet.
Wow. That's a very kind review, Mr. MENTAL. Thanks.
Love the last line: "Juice is a superb contribution to an urgently needed conversation."
Due credit to my colleague, Tyson Culver, for all the hard work he did in putting the series together. It was complex project with dozens of interviews and hundreds of clips. He did a great job.
and my thanks to you, Mr. Bryce, for putting the series together! I will ask you the same question I asked this forum: how many more blackouts must we endure before the message is understood?
Hi. I hope (pray) it doesn't take a blackout. We have had serious warnings with winter storms Uri and Elliott. The challenge is getting policymakers to understand the grave threats we face, both on the gas grid and electric grid (which are now closely intertwined.) So how many blackouts will it take? I hope none. But I fear we will need to experience a severe, extended blackout before policymakers get serious.
I'll stick with my range! If it takes 1,000 we have bigger problems. We see at least 5 in large population regions before politicians are forced to flip burgers and wash cars and step away from their former "governance" roles.
Overall I liked the series, but to be honest, I did not like gas and renewables being painted with the same brush. It was CC plants coming of age, combined with the wave of mercury emmision regs that pushed gas forward, not renewables .
We didn't see them as painted with the same brush at all. We agree CC plants and MATS rules pushed gas forward. But fracking made that possible as well. (We've thought for 20 years that fracking was the market's answer to clear signals that politics and regulation would kill coal.)
More broadly, take away gas and coal and do not expand nuclear, and one will have less mercury deposition and feel better about it (for good reason) while one sits in dark at night and when the wind doesn't blow (and half the time it does). And, as for the economy that nothing but wind/solar/hydro electricity would support, sitting in the dark at night will be about a 3 on a scale of 10 relative to the larger problems.
There is and old saying it takes a village to raise a child. It takes a village of power resources to operate a power system. Boilers do not follow rapid load changes well regardless of the fuel. But are the locomotives of the system. Solid fuels are inherently slow to changes but are extremely fault tolerant to momentary problems. Hydro is extremely easy to stop and start, they offer the best voltage control, and their mass provides inertia like nothing else. But they need water, probably the most regulated thing on the planet. Gas turbines are the sprint cars, fast and light, they are great to follow load. When used as a combined cycle they provide more watts per btuh than any other system. Nukes ar fantastically cheap and safe, but thermally cycling them would be unwise. It remains to be seen if the NRC will allow load following. Even green energy has a place in the village, but none can be the whole village.
High temperature reactors, i.e. molten salt, liquid metal or gas cooled pebble bed can load follow by heating a circuit of solar salt and storage tank during nighttime surplus power period, sufficient to supply the daytime peak demand. They use a standard gas steam turbine fed via the high temperature solar salt reservoir to drive a generator. In fact that is the plan of the Natrium liquid sodium fast reactors. Also the Xe-100 pebble bed SMR is designed to load follow and is able to ramp up or ramp down between 40% and full power in 12 minutes.
Only problem with that is to get the corrupt NRC dinosaur regulator to license these new reactor designs. Most likely they will end up being built in Developing Nations.
I would want to seea demonstration reactor built somewhere like the old INEL site and safely operated before I would want to go full Monty on a radical new design. BTW if you take a 1.2 GW steam turbine from 40% to full load in 12 minutes you will destroy the turbine.
The first part of what you said is just standard engineering procedure for building just about any new design be it gas, coal, hydro or nuclear. Nothing different about nuclear in spite of all the hype to the contrary. The Xe-100 is a helium cooled 80 MWe reactor.
Earth is cooler w GHE not warmer.
GHE graphics use bad math & badder physics.
Kinetic heat transfer makes “extra” BB energy impossible.
Since GHE & CAGW climate “science” are indefensible rubbish alarmists resort to fear mongering lies, lawsuits, censorship & violence.
I don’t understand how or where to view these documentaries … Netflix? Prime? Theaters?
No worries. At each place in the article where we first mention each episode (there are 5), you'll find that Episode 1 (for example) has an active link to YouTube, where you may view each episode for free.
Or, just search Juice the Movie on YouTube and it will pull up. 5 episodes, each lasting around 20 minutes.
Enjoy! Please help Robert and Tyson (and Meredith and Emmet and others) spread the message widely!
Ah YouTube! I never think of that. Thanks …
Great review. I am a big Robert Bryce fan and just downloaded to watch on West Coast visit.
We’ve followed his work since we read Power Hungry almost 15 yrs ago.
Authors who can make the critical services largely taken for granted by the public relatable for the layperson are important. Doomberg and Bryce are our favorites in this regard.
Alex Epstein does a nice job on the philosophical, moral, human side of this energy/environmental/economic conversation. Roger Pielke, Jr. does so nicely with climate science, as does Judith Curry (whom I’ve known since 2009) for those more technically interested. Bjorn Lomborg has done so very well since writing The Skeptical Environmentalist almost 25 years ago.
There are other great voices. Too many to list. We hope to contribute in some small way to the overall effort to find the right balance between human prosperity and environmental stewardship.
Back in 2022 Bryce was interviewing a Arab American oil expert Anas Alhajji, mention the deep state. Bryce told him that we don't say that here that deep state is conspiracy theory. I don't see his optimism as far as the Constitution goes which is wrecked 400 million dollars that Trump has to pay for nothing this country is a banana Republic run by the deep state the CIA the FBI are going to elect our presidents and if you get out of line you'll get the Trump treatment.
Some would say we're already out of line with this Substack.
;)
Yeah Project AMYThe Minnesota Senator asks Amazon to censor Substack and Rumble. How much more of this can we take? https://open.substack.com/pub/taibbi/p/listen-to-this-article-amy-klobuchar?r=402ea&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
I very much admire both your post and the work of Robert Bryce. I have just one caveat with the movie ... it doesn't make the point strongly that energy security is missing as a goal in the top tier of regulators. Until all the foolish people that consider carbon dioxide to be villainous are removed from control, there will continue be frozen ordinary citizen
Fair point. Lack of accountability is widely distributed with respect to the grid.
Energy security will become a top goal of regulators by hook or by crook. We favor the easy way, not the hard.
thanks. helpful summary. but it begs the question: how many more blackouts must we endure before the message is understood?
Glad you asked. We have a definitive answer:
More than 5, and less than 1,000.
;)
Does anyone else find it ironic that they may need to install rooftop solar with battery backup to avoid the inevitable electrical disruptions caused by the premature widespread adoption of renewables?
Yup, we do. And, present "battery backup" systems won't help them past a day, two at most. As Texans how that would've worked out in Uri.
Fantastic summation of each episode, thank you. I want my young adult kids to watch it because they are the generation entering primacy as adults. They come up against a slavering mass of truly ignorant but "educated" peers and it's important that they understand how policy can be so quixotically written and enacted and the political reasons for that.
I always find that John Lee Pettimore's pithy notes about the contrast between renewables and the emerging battery economy and their decidedly un-green sourcing and mfr process a great illustration of how fear and misrepresention of reality bring about terrible policy decisions.
You're welcome. Good idea. Young adults are also shocked to read Bjorn Lomborg's The Skeptical Environmentalist and what it documents as well. Written ~2000 but still applicable (his present work at Copenhagen Consensus continues that type of analysis.).
The other documentary we recommend to that generation is Jeff Gibbs' Planet of the Humans. When you set aside Gibbs (and exec dir. Michael Moore's) Malthusianism and statism, what you're left with in that documentary about wind and solar is nothing short of stunning. (Substack author and 350.org Founder Bill McKibben does not come off looking particularly good or very serious about "environmentalism" in that film...)
I recall how rapidly the left side of the aisle went from talking about the Moore and Gibbs doc to a complete silence following its release. And you're statement about the filmmakers' takeaway not just repudiating the giant green conglomerates but finding ever more reason to want to euthanize the planet's human population. The left really does seem to have an apocalyptic vision of reality which is strange to me.
Anyway, thanks for the Lomberg tip, I never read the book. He's cogent and an excellent analyst. I was also curious about Fritz Vahrenholt's work too since I find his position to be rational, but confess I haven't read Das Kalte Sonne yet.
Wow. That's a very kind review, Mr. MENTAL. Thanks.
Love the last line: "Juice is a superb contribution to an urgently needed conversation."
Due credit to my colleague, Tyson Culver, for all the hard work he did in putting the series together. It was complex project with dozens of interviews and hundreds of clips. He did a great job.
Again, many thanks.
You're welcome, Robert. You/Tyson and the crew and cast earned it.
Please keep up the good and important work. If we are contributing to the conversation in a similar fashion, we are achieving our goal.
and my thanks to you, Mr. Bryce, for putting the series together! I will ask you the same question I asked this forum: how many more blackouts must we endure before the message is understood?
(Robert, see our response to Barry's question above. Now, use your powers and be more predictive than that!)
Hi. I hope (pray) it doesn't take a blackout. We have had serious warnings with winter storms Uri and Elliott. The challenge is getting policymakers to understand the grave threats we face, both on the gas grid and electric grid (which are now closely intertwined.) So how many blackouts will it take? I hope none. But I fear we will need to experience a severe, extended blackout before policymakers get serious.
I'll stick with my range! If it takes 1,000 we have bigger problems. We see at least 5 in large population regions before politicians are forced to flip burgers and wash cars and step away from their former "governance" roles.
Another great article. Juice is on my watch list!
Thank you. We note that you were one of our first subscribers.
Thanks for being with us from the beginning (and for your vote of confidence today). We are grateful.
I look forward to watching this series. Thank you for the recommendation.
Get on it.
Then, help spread it!
Overall I liked the series, but to be honest, I did not like gas and renewables being painted with the same brush. It was CC plants coming of age, combined with the wave of mercury emmision regs that pushed gas forward, not renewables .
We didn't see them as painted with the same brush at all. We agree CC plants and MATS rules pushed gas forward. But fracking made that possible as well. (We've thought for 20 years that fracking was the market's answer to clear signals that politics and regulation would kill coal.)
More broadly, take away gas and coal and do not expand nuclear, and one will have less mercury deposition and feel better about it (for good reason) while one sits in dark at night and when the wind doesn't blow (and half the time it does). And, as for the economy that nothing but wind/solar/hydro electricity would support, sitting in the dark at night will be about a 3 on a scale of 10 relative to the larger problems.
There is and old saying it takes a village to raise a child. It takes a village of power resources to operate a power system. Boilers do not follow rapid load changes well regardless of the fuel. But are the locomotives of the system. Solid fuels are inherently slow to changes but are extremely fault tolerant to momentary problems. Hydro is extremely easy to stop and start, they offer the best voltage control, and their mass provides inertia like nothing else. But they need water, probably the most regulated thing on the planet. Gas turbines are the sprint cars, fast and light, they are great to follow load. When used as a combined cycle they provide more watts per btuh than any other system. Nukes ar fantastically cheap and safe, but thermally cycling them would be unwise. It remains to be seen if the NRC will allow load following. Even green energy has a place in the village, but none can be the whole village.
Well said.
High temperature reactors, i.e. molten salt, liquid metal or gas cooled pebble bed can load follow by heating a circuit of solar salt and storage tank during nighttime surplus power period, sufficient to supply the daytime peak demand. They use a standard gas steam turbine fed via the high temperature solar salt reservoir to drive a generator. In fact that is the plan of the Natrium liquid sodium fast reactors. Also the Xe-100 pebble bed SMR is designed to load follow and is able to ramp up or ramp down between 40% and full power in 12 minutes.
Only problem with that is to get the corrupt NRC dinosaur regulator to license these new reactor designs. Most likely they will end up being built in Developing Nations.
Agreed, if they can get the capital and skilled labor force.
I would want to seea demonstration reactor built somewhere like the old INEL site and safely operated before I would want to go full Monty on a radical new design. BTW if you take a 1.2 GW steam turbine from 40% to full load in 12 minutes you will destroy the turbine.
The first part of what you said is just standard engineering procedure for building just about any new design be it gas, coal, hydro or nuclear. Nothing different about nuclear in spite of all the hype to the contrary. The Xe-100 is a helium cooled 80 MWe reactor.