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Barry Woods's avatar

This is where John Cook came from – before he got “climate” - straight out of Uni - web designer and owner of the Sev Trek website (parody sci cartoons)

Sev Wide Web - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://web.archive.org/web/20130626222642/http:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sev_Wide_Web

Ex Astris Scientia - EAE Award Winners 2003

https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/misc/eae-03.htm

John Cook Chat Transcript - Chat Room FAQ and Information - STARTREKFANS.NET

https://www.startrekfans.net/topic/17847-john-cook-chat-transcript/

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Pat Robinson's avatar

And Ruffalo is a pseudo intellectual in the standard of Justin Trudeau.

A dolt, a ninny with a cluttered mind.

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Pat Robinson's avatar

Cook and the head of the UN are the main spreaders of misinformation on the internet and media.

When do they get arrested?

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BRIAN CAM's avatar

HULK HATE INDIAN POINT NUCLEAR & IS LIAR LIAR LIAR. The campaign launch includes a video marking the historic shutdown of Indian Point, featuring actor and activist Mark Ruffalo, musician and poet Ani DiFranco, and advocates who have been leading the movement. See the video here: https://youtu.be/uS-NPkUMxrc

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environMENTAL's avatar

Great post. Had not seen that.

Points 1 & 3 of Renee Vogelsang’s “3 Important Points” and Paul Gallay’s claims specifically about them were either ignorant, malevolent, or both.

Either way, the closure and idiot comments are clearly coming back to haunt them in terms of $/MWH, reliability and CO2 emissions. Empirical evidence has made that crystal clear.

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environMENTAL's avatar

Yep. That’s special ain’t it?

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BRIAN CAM's avatar

In 2021-05 when the HULK posted Youtube Video. NUCLEARNY.org Allies Bombed it with over 500 Dislikes. Good thing Member of CENSORSHIP Industrial complex equals youtube, got rid of dislikes so Anti nuclear riverkeeper.org Can post lies and not be held accountable. https://www.riverkeeper.org/news-events/news/stop-polluters/power-plant-cases/indian-point/new-beyond-indian-point-campaign-launches-as-nuclear-facility-shuts-down-focuses-on-nys-transition-to-renewable-energy/

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alexei's avatar

The CCDH and John Cook et al are clearly the ones fomenting hate.

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John Polomny's avatar

Brilliant article and timely. I just talked about this on my weekly YouTube video. As one of the “96” I was pretty excited to be named with such luminaries as Jordan Peterson and John Stossel. All publicity is good publicity and they spelled my name correctly and linked to my channel! Thanks MI6.

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environMENTAL's avatar

Thanks. If we end up on that list if or when CCDH and Cook update this report, we'll know we're over the target.

Reminds us of the 1980's Billy Bragg tune "Waiting for the Great Leap Forward":

"Here comes the future and you can't run from it

If you've got a blacklist I want to be on it"

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Mark Bucknam's avatar

Extremely informative and entertaining. Nice work exposing John Cook and his alleged research associates.

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environMENTAL's avatar

Thanks, we're always aiming for your first sentence.

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Chris Gorman's avatar

This is a fabulous trip down the potholed lane of progressive wacko leaders (more than slightly aligned with the social justice scolds) and their desire for absolute uniformity of thought combined with a paucity of actual knowledge. It's not surprising that smart (or in Ruffalo's case completely not smart) but uncurious mouthpieces constantly hector us unwashed people on our sins and lies. What is always in play are little factoids produced by captured NGOs and universities spouting misinformation, knowing it will be broadcast by social media darlings who never saw a smear of rationality they didn't like.

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environMENTAL's avatar

Thanks. Your first sentence ("...with a paucity of actual knowledge) reminds us of a graph we used in our introductory piece we titled "The Renewable Energy Transition Dunning-Kruger Effect". https://envmental.substack.com/p/environmental-energy-and-economics

Your last reminds of us a quote commonly attributed to Twain but others argue Jonathan Swift alluded to it differently but effectively the same: "A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on."

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Chris Gorman's avatar

Excellent. I remember well the Dunning-Kruger missive. It's what caused me to join your rogues gallery of readers. As for the Twain quote (it's always the way with the great commenters on man's existence that attributions to them are made because how could that wordsmith NOT have said that!) I hadn't realized that my construction had a similarity to the great man's. Maybe I need a great mustache and a southern gentleman's suit

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Lee's avatar

Nice piece guys…. Here’s my solution, make STEM degrees free and degrees in anything resembling social science hugely expensive, with no loans available. I’m amazed at what passes for a climate scientist these days.

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environMENTAL's avatar

Thanks. Interesting solution. In the same way that tort reform is vehemently resisted by the Bar, we expect your solution would meet with a tsunami of resistance from the social science mavens. But it would sure cut down on a lot of the present parasitic mind viruses (a Gad Saad term) and luxury beliefs.

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Lee's avatar

I just finished Rob Henderson’s book on luxury beliefs. What a great concept.

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Stephen Heins's avatar

The Greens are calling the kettle black.

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environMENTAL's avatar

They can call it anything they want.

Putting it in the philosophical/public debate/scientific gulag is another matter.

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Waspi, Kevin G's avatar

Perfect!

“ Is Ruffalo’s X post “misinformation, disinformation, or malinformation”? Is this a form of hate speech?! These rhetorical questions are a nice (and ironic) segue to the CCDH report itself.” Rhetorical is so polite! I’m not.

I’ll call bulls*** on all of it, and the esteemed scientific genius academics that I’ve never heard of either. Never heard of Mark Ruffalo, or any of the other Hollywood experts, but I can identify an effort to gag any opposition to the crap these hucksters spew.

Keep up the good work environMENTAL!

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environMENTAL's avatar

Thanks.

(And, we love it when you're "not"!)

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Elizabeth Smoots, MD's avatar

Excellent article. The DHS's Minstry of Truth was defeated but keeps rearing its ugly head. Marxists never quit trying to advance their agenda--worldwide communism--they just keep changing the camouflage. I suggest reading "Unwoke: How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America."

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environMENTAL's avatar

Defeated, check.

But, unfortunately, I'm going to hear Scary Poppins singing in my head for the rest of my life! Can't unplay that movie! ;)

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Barry Butterfield's avatar

Outstanding post, sirs/ladies! Thank you.

A couple of comments. First, “CCDH” is mislabeled. It should be “Center for Creating Digital Hate.” Perhaps that is more an observation than comment.

Second, I wonder where Martin Durkin’s and Ted Nelson”s new movie (Climate: The Movie Cold Truth) will fall on SkS radar. Maybe like an incoming ICBM over Nova Scotia? For those who haven’t heard/seen this piece, it is well worth the hour and a half to watch. Below is a link:

https://eds6.mailcamp.nl/url.php?subid=3vyz2nlq6g5ysm4&nstatid=9gj40j711y&info=n9w3d0v&L=17131&F=H

The final words of this movie are profound, and very much relevant to your current essay as well as Doomberg and a recent essay from David Friedman (Murthy v. Missouri):

There is a suspicion, perhaps even realization, that climate change is an invented scam, driven by self-interest and snobbery, cynically promoted by a parasitic public establishment, hungry for ever more money and power, an assault on the freedom and prosperity of the rest of us.

Thanks again. Outstanding piece

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environMENTAL's avatar

Thanks!

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Sue Don Nim's avatar

Human Induced Climate Change (HICC) is fiction. Many climate scientists support this view. Watch "Climate: The Movie".

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Lee's avatar

Excellent movie!

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Mary Mc's avatar

Always a good read.

I have an X account but mostly use it as I used Drudge or a newspaper. Any thoughtful interaction is useless.

I use Substack as I would magazines or books. I so enjoy the content of way too many authors. The comments are almost always civil and some offer even more interesting content.

Substack is my morning rabbit hole, that I throughly enjoy diving down. Just wish I were rich and could afford to subscribe to everyone here that I enjoy. Alas, it's not possible so I try to repay by sharing and encouring others to come to the platform. 🙂

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environMENTAL's avatar

Thanks!

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Jeff Keener's avatar

Agreed, Mary! My various substack subscriptions (including Racket, Rumble, etc.) are my best investments for 2023 and 2024, so far.

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Kilovar 1959's avatar

Butter is bad for you, margarine is good for you .... butter is good for you, margarine is bad for you Why would I question a scientist?

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environMENTAL's avatar

energy is good for you. no scientist needed.

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Mary Mc's avatar

Don't forget eggs! 😉

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